[samuelizdat]

Ukraine struggles with a sense of national identity because for the most of history it was a buffer region of roving cossack bands up until the 18th century. The concept of Ukraine as a national entity is still very new.

Ukrainians in Azov super-hate communism because of what happened in WW2 so they adopt the opposite stance from WW2. In the grand scheme of "history of Ukraine" they don't have much else to draw from.

You're worried to much about the symbols they use and are arguing "well, what really even IS a neo-nazi" when you should be asking questions like "Why does Azov run military training camps for children" Western journalists from Vice even covered them. Associated Press did as well, before editing the article to take out the part about the camps being funded not by the united states, but the Ukraine national guard (US gives money to the Ukraine national guard, not Azov directly so it's Kosher)

[keymone]

I always criticize Azov or any other organization for doing crap like that (militarizing kids, nazi-ish symbols, etc), but I don’t want to throw the baby away with the bath water. Azov is a volunteer battalion of people that decided to risk their lives to defend Ukrainian borders from Russian invasion when internal politics and military were in disarray. Only a certain kind of people will volunteer to do that and I’m thankful for their service. I also think that crimes perpetrated by Azov members should not go unpunished and it’s weird and stupid that I even should say that out loud, as if it’s not a default position.