[hosteur]

> Unlike East Germany there's no HUMINT apparatus in the west or in China.

You are very mistaken. Just because HUMINT are more discreet does not mean it does not exist.

Also, some of the stuff they do are very blatant. Just look at cases like Assange and Jake Appelbaum. Clearly HUMINT efforts.

[jopsen]

I personally suspect there are no HUMINT efforts to spy on me :)