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by dmitriid 1844 days ago
> I agree that being misleading is bad.

How it started: "I do see at least some information about what Phabricator is" and " vague description is much better than nothing."

How it's going: "I agree that being misleading is bad."

Number of times I said or implied anything about information being misleading: 0. Number of times I said the comment provided zero useful information: many.

> By the way, do you ever care if programs are web apps

> If someone explained what you do with phabricator, but left it ambiguous

> Let's say someone had a list of facts about Phabricator to provide context

Too many words that are as useful or as pertinent to the discussion as the original comment: not at all.

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> Number of times I said or implied anything about information being misleading: 0.

Here, I will quote what you said about misleading information: "And if you asked "What the hell is Camry?", and the answer was "a cage of wheels", that answer would still have no usefulness whatsoever. It would even be actively unuseful. Because this is a cage on wheels:"

> Too many words that are as useful or as pertinent to the discussion as the original comment: not at all.

Either you're badly misreading me and/or skipping half of what I said, in which case I give up, or you think it's not even useful to know that phabricator is software, in which case you are ridiculous and I give up.

> it's not even useful to know that phabricator is software

For some unknown reason you seem to assume that any and all information, however useless, is "better than nothing". Go enjoy your cage on wheels.

When the topic is a company stopping making a thing, it's useful to know what the thing is.
Indeed. And the original comment provided exactly zero useful info on what the thing is.

Let's say someone doesn't know what Phabricator is. After the insightful comment that is "better than nothing" that someone will no exactly the same amount about what Phabricator is: zero. And will have to Google or rely on other comments to understand what it is.

The fact that "it's a LAMP (Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP) application" has exactly zero value or use to anyone who wants to what Phabricator is.

Here's an actual useful comment that would actually provide actual useful context:

"For those who don't know, Phabricator is a collection of tools for collaborating on software (for example, code reviews). It's gained some popularity and Facebook is even running a custom fork of it. Fun trivia: it runs on a LAMP stack."

If you ask some friends to order the following statements in terms of usefulness:

A: X company is shutting down development on their web software product.

B: X company is shutting down development on something.

C: X company is shutting down development on their web software product, which is used for collaborating on software development.

Then I bet that if your friends find any difference at all, they will rank C better than A better than B.

The headline alone tells us B, and the headline plus the LAMP comment tells us A.

Compare the useless comment you're so eagerly defending with other examples of useless comments to this comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27348692