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by eitland 1850 days ago
Point is the description is about as useful as describing a car as an cage with an engine and wheels.

Yes it is correct.

But it can be anything:

- a car

- a truck

- a trailer with a power generator

Phabricator was a (very) different take on the same class of tooling as GitLab: source code management, task management, code reviews etc integrated.
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Dylan16807 1850 days ago
And if I ask "What the heck is a camry?", then that vague description is much better than nothing.

> Phabricator was a (very) different take on the same class of tooling as GitLab: source code management, task management, code reviews etc integrated.

Great. If you made that comment 11 hours ago then maybe some downvotes on smitty1e would have been justified. Instead it's "how dare you improve the situation somewhat!".

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dmitriid 1850 days ago
> that vague description is much better than nothing.

It's not "better than nothing". It, itself, is nothing at best.

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Dylan16807 1849 days ago
Pretend the initial comment didn't say LAMP but just said "web app". That's clearly not useless, right? You can tell from context that it must be software, but "web app" is an obvious improvement from there.

You could argue that "LAMP (Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP) application" instead of "web app" adds nothing more than "web app", and I won't fight you on that.

But surely it's still at least as good as "web app"!

Also "that vague description" was referring to "cage with an engine and wheels". It's crazy to say that's a useless description, when the starting point is "anything in the world".

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dmitriid 1849 days ago
> Pretend the initial comment didn't say LAMP but just said "web app". That's clearly not useless, right?

Yes. Yes, it is useless.

> You can tell from context that it must be software, but "web app" is an obvious improvement from there.

No. No, it's not. It still provides exactly zero context, and contributes exactly zero to the discussion.

> But surely it's still at least as good as "web app"!

Yes. Yes, it is: it contrbutes just as much, nothing.

> Also "that vague description" was referring to "cage with an engine and wheels".

Are we still talking about a top-level comment on a link that says "Phacility is winding down, Phabricator no longer actively maintained"?

So, let me see your alternatives:

- "Phabricator is a LAMP (Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP) application."

What does this contribute, exactly? Nothing. It's an out-of-context statement that doesn't describe what Phabricator actually is, and why this is relevant to the actual news, of, you know, "Phacility winding down, Phabricator no longer actively maintained"

- just said "web app"

What does this contribute, exactly? Nothing. It's an out-of-context statement that doesn't describe what Phabricator actually is, and why this is relevant to the actual news, of, you know, "Phacility winding down, Phabricator no longer actively maintained"

So, no. It's not "better than nothing". Because it is just that, nothing.

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Dylan16807 1849 days ago
I really don't understand why you think "web app" is not better than "software?" as a description. But I can't think of any way to convince you, so oh well.

>> Also "that vague description" was referring to "cage with an engine and wheels".

> Are we still talking about a top-level comment on a link that says "Phacility is winding down, Phabricator no longer actively maintained"?

Phabricator is the overall topic. But the line you quoted was responding to a specific argument, which said "the description is about as useful as describing a car as an cage with an engine and wheels". That's why the line you quoted had the word "camry" in it, in the part you cut out.

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dmitriid 1849 days ago
> Phabricator is the overall topic.

The topic is literally "Phacility is winding down, Phabricator no longer actively maintained".

> That's why the line you quoted had the word "camry" in it, in the part you cut out.

Doesn't really matter whether I cut it out or not. The original comment on the topic had as much relevance, context, or usefulness, as describing a car as a "cage on wheels": exactly zero.

And if you asked "What the hell is Camry?", and the answer was "a cage of wheels", that answer would still have no usefulness whatsoever. It would even be actively unuseful. Because this is a cage on wheels: https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81ra8W7ndGL..., and this is a Camry: https://www.motortrend.com/uploads/sites/5/2020/01/2020-Toyo...

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