[frankfrankfrank]

So instead of just producing a set of notable people, they went with excluding men. I am not sure how we will ever achieve the supposed goals when they all seem to just be lip service and not about equality at all. How is this equal?

[TotempaaltJ]

This is just a list of notable women. It's not really "excluding men" as much as it is just a different category.

[ARandomerDude]

Exactly. Separate but equal.

[SyzygistSix]

While not talking about men mathematically excludes them, or logically excludes sets of men, in everyday life this is merely an incidence where men, or famous men, are just not the subject.

When I talk about auto racing I'm not excluding martial artists. I'm just not talking about them because the subject is auto racing.

[onion2k]

"When you are accustomed to privilege, equality can feel like oppression." Stephanie Herrera

[fsckboy]

so, in your response to frankfrankfrank, help me parse it:

"When you are accustomed to privilege, equality can feel like oppression."

what you are saying is that, now that women are accustomed to their privilege, equality (including men in the field of faces) would feel like oppression again, so best to leave them out?

[postalrat]

But has the concept been producing positive results?

[jfengel]

It did in this case. Nobody would have batted an eyelash if they had gone with, say, US Presidents, a list which excludes women.

This tweaks on that notion. Somebody got angry about it. That person got downvoted. We all learned a tiny lesson about the ways that women get excluded regularly, and how that would make you feel.

If one particular HN poster learned a lesson that not everybody supports them on "I won't complain about lists that exclude women but I will complain about lists that exclude men, and pretend it's about equality", then that's another tiny bonus. Not a big one, but this is the kind of thing that happens in tiny increments.

[account42]

Let's say you are in a group of friends who always buy peanuts to snack on during group events. And because they are all into peanuts they don't consider buying anything else. Now one day its your turn to buy snacks. You don't like peanuts but are a cashew fan. To show your friend how you have been excluded you decide to buy only cashews even though you know they all want peanuts. Do you think this is the best way to encourage snack diversity or will it just discourage people from letting you buy the snacks?