[philjohn]

What about conditions such as fog?

[theopsguy]

Human drive in fog just fine with pure vision, why can’t AI do the same?

Keep in mind that vision is needed in all cases for lane keeping at the very minimum. So if vision is not able to see in fog, it won’t be able to self drive even radar is working.

[xvector]

> Human drive in fog just fine with pure vision, why can’t AI do the same?

Humans also use real intelligence and higher-order thought when driving. Humans also have stereo vision.

Unless you’re telling me that Tesla has invented AGI, the comparison is absurd.

In the meantime, Tesla can’t even get my auto wipers right.

[theopsguy]

Is there a formal proof that FSD requires the same level of intelligence of AGI?

Stereo vision can be built from cameras as well, even with a single moving camera. This is exactly what tesla is doing with their new DNN but with multiple cameras.

I don’t disagree with you that Tesla is still far away from FSD, but using what’s not possible today to draw the conclusion that a goal is not achievable in the future is the opposite of first principle thinking. 10 years ago i could also say go AI can’t even beat semi-pro so we will never be able to solve Go with AI.

[asah]

False. Here's dozens of cases of pile-ups caused by fog:

https://www.google.com/search?q=fog+highway+pile+up

[theopsguy]

Note that self driving doesn’t mean 0 accidents, it just need to be better than avg human. People get into accidents when there is no fog as well.