[Unseelie]

I'm going to assume you're not in the 15-25 set, by even claiming there's wide commonality between people 15 and 25 years old. 18-25, perhaps.

The first major difference is that people approaching 25 have a great deal more money than people at 15.

All that aside, I for one notice a huge predilection in my peers (of the 19-22 set)to buy into services such as hulu and netxflix, and to look there first for their media. Why? Because the services are instant, cheap, and of much better than most pirated media.

FYI, netflix charges $8 a month...significantly less than the 20 you site.

[blhack]

I'm 24, and yes, there is a wide commonality in this group of people.

15 is usually around the age that kids start getting proficient enough with their computer that they can figure out how to bootleg movies. 25 is about the time that they mature out of it.

>The first major difference is that people approaching 25 have a great deal more money than people at 15.

Do they? Most of the people that I know around that age (I'm that age) have very little disposable income. While netflix (which doesn't have even remotely close to the same amount of titles as TPB) is only $8/mo, that $8/mo is a 12 pack of PBR.

>All that aside, I for one notice a huge predilection in my peers (of the 19-22 set)to buy into services such as hulu and netxflix, and to look there first for their media.

Are your peers mostly wealthy (relatively) computer programmers?

>significantly less than the 20 you [c]ite

Netflix and TPB aren't competitors. Do you think that major movie studios would offer all of their titles for $8/mo? There is already several massive experiments (netflix, hulu) taking place to test this, and the result is: no, they wouldn't.

[Unseelie]

I can't argue on any point except your money point, given my own experiences. (except for the fact that as netflix and TPB are sources for simmilar goods, then yes, they are competitors)

My peers are generally not computer programmers, no, nor do they have much disposable income. They do live in the the united states, which means realtive certian other populations, they are insanely wealthy. We scrape by in the lower end of cost of living in this nation with large student debts, and housing costs in the range of $400 a month...from that, it isn't hard to split a netflix bill two or three ways. It costs, effectively, spare change to buy a netflix account between three people. Seriously on the margin of 80% of the people I know have a netflix account, with far fewer understanding the mechanics of bootlegging movies. We have netflix before we have a tv subscription.

[slowpoke]

>15 is usually around the age that kids start getting proficient enough with their computer that they can figure out how to bootleg movies. 25 is about the time that they mature out of it.

Asserting that pirating is a question of maturity first and foremost is a very daring thing to do, to say the least.

[novumordo]

Services such as Netflix and Hulu are not available in most countries, and if they are, selection is terrible.

[nkassis]

Yeah that's the issue in Canada which has Netflix but the selection is so attrocious it's not even funny. All this because for Netflix it's a pain in the ass to have to negotiate for the same content in all the jurisdictions and that media conglomerates don't trust canadians due to our perceived soft copyright laws. Give me a brake.

I saw a report the other day on lower CD sales for local Quebec music. The whole time they were calling for the end of the world, then at the end of the show they mention that online sales are up. Nothing explaining why CDs are better for artist than online sales through iTunes and others. Nothing that says if the majority of loss sales are now digital purchases or if the total amount of buying is down. Instead it's the same bullshit stuff. CDs are down and we are making less money from CD sales. We need taxes on MP3 players that go (I don't get how exactly) to the artists etc...

Sorry that was unrelated as a rant but this is just how annoyed I am with the situation.

[novumordo]

>Yeah that's the issue in Canada which has Netflix but the selection is so attrocious it's not even funny. All this because for Netflix it's a pain in the ass to have to negotiate for the same content in all the jurisdictions and that media conglomerates don't trust canadians due to our perceived soft copyright laws.

Consider that Rogers and Bell don't want to make it easy for anyone to steal their market share. I don't have cable, but I'd pay for Hulu, if it were available here. Look at the recent Internet Metering attempt by Rogers and Bell to stifle innovation in the way Canadians get TV and Movies.

[noarchy]

You can pay for a VPN and get Hulu (and Pandora, and whatever else you're not "allowed" to use) in Canada. It's crazy that this is the kind of thing we have to do in order to circumvent the silly IP/location restrictions that exist today.

[gcb]

netflix US is also crappy. What makes you think it's better?

Proof: Take a look at their top 100. only 2 you can stream in the US, all the 98 others are via DVD only.