[DarmokJalad1701]

> You've seen teslas burn so you know that side too.

How often do Teslas burn compared to ICE cars?

> At this moment the only thing we gain by converting conventional vehicles to electric or hydrogen is less local NOx and particulate emissions and offsetting them with more emissions elsewhere.

Using an EV with today's grid is still significantly more efficient in terms of energy use and CO2 emissions even with some fossil fuels being used to power the grid.

Source: https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?year=2020&vehicleId=...

A few large heat engines (power plants) running at a constant peak-efficiency load is much more efficient than thousands of smaller heat engines running at variable loads.

[mateo1]

Actually I bothered calculating the CO2 emissions per mile for a 2021 diesel car with 88mpg nominal efficiency with the same factor (1.25) as this website and it turns out to just 145 grams of CO2/mile. Compared to Tesla's nominal 130g/mile on grid mix, the diesel car is just 11% higher than the electric car. Pretty impressive eh? It's also at least $30,000 cheaper (not accounting subsidies you see), has a longer lifespan and range, doesn't require overhauling the global electrical grid infrastructure with a cost of untold billions, doesn't have all the externalities of the car battery lifecycle and sourcing lithium, and I'm pretty sure it produces less CO2 per mile when you're driving in cold weather and the cabin needs heating. So even if your target is lowering CO2 emissions there are better ways to spend all this capital for doing so. Or at least that's my opinion.