[matheusmoreira]

> So knowing that, do we continue to yell into the night or do we implement a solution that doesn't leave umpty billion devices without kernel security updates?

Absolutely. Google has more than enough power and leverage to solve this problem. Why doesn't it require manufacturers to upstream their drivers instead of enabling their shitty industry practices? Literally just make it a requirement for Google Play services licensing or something. The phone manufacturers will be forced to require it from the chip manufacturers as well.

Google already does a lot of good work getting open source firmware into chromebooks. It should do even more. Use all that intellectual property for good for once.

[BugsJustFindMe]

> Google has more than enough power and leverage to solve this problem.

Yep. They are using their power and leverage to stabilize the kernel driver interface so that this just stops being a problem.

> Literally just make it a requirement for Google Play services licensing or something.

Google already has enough trouble keeping manufacturers on Google Play without giving them even more incentive to develop alternatives like microG.

https://wccftech.com/oppo-vivo-xiaomi-and-huawei-band-togeth...

https://wccftech.com/huawei-executive-says-the-company-wont-...

Android really needs the chip makers more than the chip makers need Android.