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by ryanlol 1856 days ago
This wasn’t even remotely similar.

Those EU countries didn’t allow the plane into their airspace, encouraging it to land in a third country to refuel.

Belarus called in a fake bomb threat and used their fighter jets to force a passenger flight to land in their territory, not to mention the KGB officers on board making a scene.

Outcome might be similar, but it’s specifically the tactics used which make this unacceptable.

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>Those EU countries didn’t allow the plane into their airspace, encouraging it to land in a third country to refuel.

Seems like a trivial difference. Denying access to your airspace comes with the implicit threat of fighter interception.

In the event that you are not a Russian troll, let me explain two key differences:

The Morales jet was warned ahead of time in a legal way, not intercepted and forced to land in an unintended destination.

No persons from the Morales jet were detained.

One is an lawful act (perhaps imoral in some way) , and one is an arbitrary act outside of any lawful framework . I hope this clears the confusion.

Morales plane was searched. If Snowden was on it, he would have been detained.

It's not that Belarus' actions are admissable. It's that the West is acting in a hypocritical way.

If Belarus had as much power as the US, they surely would have followed the same route and forced all the surrounding nations to close their airspace. The end result would be the same.

It was searched according to the local law where it landed. Nobody forced them to land in Austria - could have just as easily returned to Moscow.

The stark difference between the way the West does it is that you have a choice whenever to comply or pick an alternative, whereas Belarus left no choice.

EU, as a matter of routine, forbids certain persons from entering their airspace, has refused entry countless times to planes (some of them airborne) based on passenger manifests. Nobody would have batted an eye if Belarus would have done the same.

Pointing a gun (armed MiG fighter) at a civilian airplane based on who is a passenger using a deceptive pretext, outside laws and regulations, is several orders of magnitudes worse than lawful application of rules. If you fail to see why, read about habeas corpus.

The same end result achieved by legal or illegal means is more than enough difference. One is performed by the consent of many, the other by thuggery of few.
It a huge difference... You're suggesting there is a conspiracy a foot. When in practice it's quite likely France, Spain, etc. just denied access because then the diplomatic hot potato wouldn't be theirs :)

And I'm hindsight Austria probably regrets they didn't deny access too, because then the potato wouldn't have landed on their soil.

It's not very bold to say: "pass don't involve me", but it's not necessarily a conspiracy to intercept a plane. That would have to involve a lot of people, and would probably leak..