[Opt_Out_Fed_IRS]

The subtle utility of existing in the real world.

It never stops to amaze me how of all places people in here are so blind to it.

Game should recognize game, especially on HN. The way Musk operates and Tesla finances scream that this is not unlike your run of the mill startup whose survival is 50:50...but of course the founder and CEO is doing media blitz after media blitz to promote the company and get a better valuation for the inevitable equity raise.

[jrv]

So far, none of these exist yet in the real world, so we'll see which one actually gets produced and sold first. I wouldn't be surprised if it's around the same time (sometime next year).