[Raptor22]

> I also certainly learned a lot at Amazon (although the thing I learned most was “how to be effective inside Amazon,” which isn’t a particularly great skill in the long run!).

Can you speak more to this? Why is being effective inside Amazon different from being effective at any other large organization?

[spenczar5]

Oh, there's plenty of overlap between those, and I'm sure lots is applicable to other large organizations.

But I also learned things like:

- How do I most effectively advocate for headcount within Amazon's yearly budget process?

- Who is the right person to go to in AWS Networking when we think we have a possible performance problem in the network stack?

- What is AWS AppSec really looking for when a design is going through a security review? (and what are they not looking for)

These have a little applicability, but mostly they're the inside knowledge that just comes from time and experience inside the organization. You learn the shibboleths that open doors or get people to listen to you on the first try. Sorta useful, but mostly not very interesting to me personally.