[halsom]

This book has been proven a fraud by historians around the world time and time again, including by many leading historians in the United States. It’s fraudulence, and the support and proliferation of it by US state officials and US academies is sheer embarrassment. The fact that anyone still has the nerve to so much as imply that this is a worthwhile source of information should serve as a stain on the prevailing liberalism of our times.

[WalterBright]

Cites, please.

Are you claiming that the famines in the USSR and the gulags, for example, didn't happen? How about Pol Pot's massacres?

I'm curious as to your explanation for why communist countries built walls to keep people in, and the US builds walls to keep people out? Can you point out famines and gulags in the US?

I toured East Berlin in 1969. I went through the wall. East Berlin looked like a drab prison camp compared to West Berlin. You can believe whatever you like, but I've seen it with my own eyes.

I think the Berliners were a little too eager to tear down that wall, though I totally understand why. Should have left more of it up to inform later revisionists.

[FredPret]

Even more grim is the bullet holes in that wall... on the Eastern side.

Another interesting thing is aerial photos of Korea. The South is lit brightly, while the North looks like a stain of black paint.

[andrepd]

Genocide of Native Americans, man-made famines in India, imperialism and colonialism in general, the >100 coups executed by the US in the 20th century...

[halsom]

The book is full of wildly exaggerated statistics that have been proven so. It’s that simple.

[WalterBright]

Proven by who? I'll need more than an anonymous internet person to take it seriously. A book or paper by a professional historian would be credible.

Besides, even if the stats are exaggerated by factor of 10, communism still winds up being terrible.

[andrepd]

Simple question: do you attribute all preventable or violent deaths under capitalism to the ideology of capitalism? If yes you probably have over billions of deaths since the ~1600s.

[WalterBright]

Simple answer: I would count violent purges and death camps, mass executions, deliberate impositions of famine, deaths due to mass confiscation of property, gulag deaths, etc. Those are active killings of people.