[smbullet]

I don't know where you got terrorism from. The definition under question is "domestic extremism" which is not well defined. Depending on who you ask an extremist can vary between anyone who believes in the 2nd amendment to actual terrorists.

[dragontamer]

Its like pornography. You know it when you see it.

* Abortion-center bombers? Clearly terrorism.

* Oklahoma City bombing? Clearly terrorism.

* Beltway Sniper? Terrorism.

* Eco-terrorism? Such as bombing gas pipelines? Terrorism.

* Blowing up a AT&T communication hub? Not terrorism, surprisingly. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Nashville_bombing . Seems to be "standard" workplace grievance. (EDIT: I thought this was terrorism originally, but apparently the investigation came back and said not-terrorism)

There are some edge cases: a random shooting inside of a grocery store? Well, could be terrorism, might not be.

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Violent actions, even those that do not result in loss of life (ex: abortion bombers / eco-terrorists), that are designed to push an ideology is terrorism. Simple enough, right?

Sure, there are edge cases here and there. But in the vast majority of domestic terrorism cases, there's no controversy in the label.

[pumaontheprowl]

By your definition, the guys who burned down the Wendy's in Atlanta are domestic terrorists, but I've yet to see anybody in the media or law enforcement refer to them as such.

The fact is the definition of "domestic extremism" needs to be extremely rigid and detailed, otherwise the government/media will use it to selectively punish their political enemies. Simply saying "you know it when you see it" is nowhere close to a sufficient definition.

[stevenicr]

I knew a girl some 15 or so years ago who was charged with terrorism in atlanta. Apparently while trying to wiggle out of being arrested she 'attempted to light a cop car on fire' - so got that charge.

I am guessing she had a lighter or similar - not a gallon of petrol or anything - and was lashing out in some type of way, maybe burned the back seat a square inch?

Law enforcement and the courts were happy to refer to such a (knowingly) unsuccessful burning as terrorism then. She had to deal the consequences of such.

It appears to me that some situations have higher up politicians that choose some situations will not be charged as such or 'refer to them as such' in order to signal one thing or another.

[SauciestGNU]

People have been charged under the PATRIOT Act for nonviolent pipeline protests. It's not a new phenomenon that people who act contrary to the interests of the ruling class and the ownership class will see extraordinary state force used against them.

[dragontamer]

Sure there are edge cases, but the vast majority of cases I'm aware of are pretty clear cut.

Boston Marathon Bomber, Beltway Sniper, Oklahoma City Bombing. Etc. etc. Frankly, I'm not seeing too much weird selective stuff going on to be too worried about.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_terrorism_in_the_Unit...

[codezero]

Yep, total brain fart. I totally read terrorism. That definitely changes the discussion since were using a different word.