[bhouser]

I think the $40k price tag is deceptive if you look a bit closer. The extended range 300 mile battery is only available on the Platinum edition which starts at $60k IIRC, otherwise you're stuck with 230 miles which IMO going to make the truck feel hamstringed.

The $50k Cybertruck gets you 300 miles.

[bhauer]

Yeah, the $40K version of the F150 Lightning is the "commercial use" one, which will presumably be utilitarian. I think they plan to reveal more about the commercial version on Monday.

If the $40K commercial use version is the right truck for a given consumer, great. But most consumers will want to step up from that for a personal vehicle. I think for most people, we will find $53K is the real starting price.

It feels as if the $40K commercial-use version was added in order to capture some headlines that group "$40K" alongside features of the more expensive trims such as "4.4 second 0 to 60," and I believe they have been successful in that.

[rodgerd]

> The $50k Cybertruck gets you 300 miles.

The Cybertruck gets you nothing. It doesn't exist.

[nickik]

And neither does the F150 Lightning. What a dumb ass argument.

[CRConrad]

President Biden drove the F150 Lightning on TV. Has anyone (outside Tesla) driven the Cybertruck on TV yet?

[vardump]

For example Jay Leno. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25ZuKkbHdqM

[nickik]

That statement makes the argument even dumber.

[CRConrad]

How?

[nickik]

Seriously? The president drove it for a commercial and that is the prove to convinced you that it is real product? And Tesla didn't do a commercial with a president and therefore its a fake product?

They are both large car companies who have invested billions into the development and production of these products and they will both come out next year. Anything else is just nutjob conspiracy theory nonsense.

[m463]

the $40k cybertruck gets you 250 miles.

(...in late 2022)

[fastball]

The Lightning isn't supposed to be going until 2022 either, and Ford is having supply chain issues with chips, which this truck probably needs more than any car they've ever made, so we'll see which ships first.

[_ea1k]

Yeah, and the Mach-E was delayed by several months as well. It wouldn't be shocking if this ends up being more like late 2022, at least for any significant volume.

Not that its an issue. People focus a little too much on initial ship date, IMO.

[frosted-flakes]

Why would it need more chips? It's not inherently different from existing trucks in that regard.

[fastball]

Battery management in a modern EV requires more compute than an ICE vehicle, for starters.