[inb4_cancelled]

This makes me want to quit webdev and never look back. Why the fuck are we recreating operating systems in the browser? We already have operating systems. We already have containers. We already have native code execution.

[fauigerzigerk]

Because operating systems don‘t support seamless and secure distribution of cross platform software. Web browsers are currently the only secure sandbox we have.

[inb4_cancelled]

Cross platform, right. So we ignore the perfectly adequate operating systems with their mature GUI frameworks, system calls, filesystems and programming language support, because having separate teams for different platforms is apparently too much, and instead we over-engineer the fuck out of web technologies (both front and back end) to the point people are estimating their RAM needs using the number of Chrome tabs they use.

[fauigerzigerk]

Functionality is often largely independent of platform specific features. Spending limited resources on re-implementing stuff five times over can result in a worse experience for users than focusing on a single high quality cross-platform solution that is easy to distribute and keep up-to-date.

It completely depends on the specifics of the app. Some apps benefit from tight device integration. For others it's a waste of resources that could be spent on features.

[croes]

Secure sandbox? Are you kidding?

[WickyNilliams]

What other platform allows arbitrary code execution like the Web does? We have billions of Internet users yet actual security issues are few and far between. It's remarkably safe and secure given the scale

[croes]

To be safer than other platforms doesn't mean it's safe. And because Chrome is dominating it's a huge target. And at the moment the browser access to the underlying infrastructure is limited.

[fauigerzigerk]

>To be safer than other platforms doesn't mean it's safe

Not automatically, but it can mean that, and in my opinion it is true in this particular case. Safety is not defined as the complete absence of risk.

[crubier]

Lol it seems that these days, any new significant web technology makes people want to ragequit their job for some reason https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26960946

[kerryoco]

thank you this was the comment i was looking for hah. although i'm not quitting, i'm continuing to use the already awesome tools we get for free..

[vijaybritto]

Why is this a problem? Why can't they try out new things?!

[inb4_cancelled]

My problem with it is that most of the new stuff ends up in production and widely used for cargo-culting reasons.

[ranguna]

For fun?

Dude you live on such a black and white world