[tonyedgecombe]

Yes, it's hard to argue I should be putting my hand in my pocket to pay for the train fare for my neighbour so they can earn a London wage.

People do complain about the fares but the trains are full so it's questionable whether they are too high.

If I'm looking at it from an environmental perspective I'd argue the other options (cars, planes) are too cheap.

[chanc3e]

Interesting that you see rail as a method to earn a wage.

I think it's positively evil for society that someone on minimum wage can't visit family or relations because they can't afford the fare.

That hurts everyone.

[tonyedgecombe]

>Interesting that you see rail as a method to earn a wage.

Because that is the reality for the majority of rail travel. Off-peak is an afterthought.