[crystalball909]

will we live to see the day of wanting to 'work for a faang' as seeming as morally repugnant as wanting to work for monsanto, blackwater, etc? i guess nobody cares _really_ because everyone is addicted to their products, and no one wants to stop using the products because of fear of missing out. they should look into seeing if this stuff is actually making people depressed

[ergocoder]

Some extremists will always try to push for the state of moral indifference (i.e. things are benelovent or evil, only two options)

We are seeing this everywhere already. Examples:

- Voting for republicans means you are killing gay people. Some will go as far as 'no vote' means you kill gay people.

- Working at Facebook means you killed Rohingya.

There is another option: nobody cares _really_ because working at Facebook is in no way as evil as working for the companies that you mentioned.

If we followed the same logic, then TV would be evil. It's addictive and sure cause depression. Hell, Hacker news makes me miserable sometimes with all these Show HN posts...

[sneak]

> will we live to see the day of wanting to 'work for a faang' as seeming as morally repugnant as wanting to work for monsanto, blackwater, etc?

Unlikely; I still see resumes with Palantir on them and they're taken seriously in SV companies even outside of the military-industrial complex.

Ultimately most people don't have the energy or economic incentive to care as long as their $15k paychecks show up every month.

[akomtu]

50k, but I see your point.

[sneak]

RSUs aren't part of the paycheck.

[jsemrau]

Well, I wouldn't consider working for ad-based businesses and don't rely on advertising in business models for my startups.

[JohnJamesRambo]

It already is the same to me. I do not respect anyone that works for Facebook. They are the same as working for RJ Reynolds tobacco to me. There is no safe dosage or way to use the Facebook product. Maybe we thought there was, but I don't know of anyone that is not harmed by it that has an account.

Apple - some things good (well designed products), some things bad (phone addiction is a real problem, but they do at least try to make a token attempt to curb it)

Amazon - some things good (cheap products at my door instantly almost, don't have to drive and go shop and get ripped off/not find what I need), some things bad (warehouse workers treatment, every product is 4.5 stars even if it is boxed dog crap)

Netflix - sure, probably ok, not harming humans

Google - losing my respect, don't be evil mantra turning into irony

[wearywanderer]

> Netflix - sure, probably ok, not harming humans

Consider wiktionary's definitions of the word 'binge':

> A short period of excessive consumption, especially of food, alcohol, narcotics, etc.

> (by extension) A short period of an activity done in excess, such as watching a television show.

The word 'binge' is often used by people to describe their netflix habits (https://hn.algolia.com/?query=netflix%20binge&sort=byPopular...). Insofar as the design of netflix encourages binge consumption, I think netflix is harmful.

[avl999]

Amazon, Apple, Netflix or Google are not even in the same ballpark of evil and destructive to humanity as Facebook. Facebook literally adds nothing enriching to our lives other than just being a vampire hanging over everyone's head. I'd have no problem working for any of the other faangs (as a matter of fact I did work for one of them until a couple of years ago) but I'd never consider working at Facebook.

[asciident]

I don't know. Do you remember the Foxconn due to the low pay and abuse they were getting to make Apple products? Or how Apple is trying to restrict our software freedoms with walled gardens and lawsuits? Everything they do is about controlling the narrative, the market, the ecosystem. If they had beat Microsoft in the 1990s, we'd be in a very different dystopia right now. Seems worse than a company that makes optional ad-supported social networking products.

[xmprt]

Unpopular opinion but I think some parts of Facebook like creating events, groups (to some extent) and messaging are super useful. The problem is that the newsfeed (which is arguably the most damaging part) is what Facebook pushes the most because that's where all the ads are.