[yupper32]

> He tells Bill Burr that he had followed Roy around for a full day, going to all his restaurants and food trucks, and not once did Roy raise his voice to his staff.

Sorry what are you trying to say here? It's admirable or difficult not to yell at your employees?

[klinskyc]

Chefs/Kitchens are stereotypically full of yelling, and (otherwise) well-regarded chefs definitely live up to that - https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/05/dining/restaurant-workers...

[yupper32]

That still doesn't mean that not yelling should receive any sort of admiration. You don't get bonus points for doing what should be the bare minimum, regardless of what the current norms are.

[AussieWog93]

I don't see why not. Should the anti-slavery campaigners of the 1800s receive no admiration, despite social norms at the time, because vocal opposition to slavery "should be the bare minimum"?

What about companies now that go out of their way to make sure none of the workers in their supply chain are exploited? That should be the bare minimum - should we ignore the effort that they've gone to?

What about a family member who's been clean from drugs for 10 years? Should we celebrate with them, or just ignore their achievement because not being addicted to drugs is pretty much considered the bare minimum by broader society?

[yupper32]

Are you for real?

Man, who would have thought "not yelling at your employees isn't an accomplishment" would be controversial...

> Should the anti-slavery campaigners of the 1800s receive no admiration, despite social norms at the time, because vocal opposition to slavery "should be the bare minimum"?

Not even close to the same. This case would be like admiring all the people that happened to not own slaves. Congrats?

Anti-slavery campaigners were doing way more than the bare minimum. No one lost their lives over just not having slaves.

> What about companies now that go out of their way to make sure none of the workers in their supply chain are exploited? That should be the bare minimum - should we ignore the effort that they've gone to?

Not even close to the same. This case would be like admiring the factory manager for not exploiting their employees. Congrats?

> What about a family member who's been clean from drugs for 10 years? Should we celebrate with them, or just ignore their achievement because not being addicted to drugs is pretty much considered the bare minimum by broader society?

Maybe if yelling at employees was incredibly physically addictive.

Literally my whole point is that you all are saying, "Wow, it's so admirable that you're not a piece of shit!".

[AussieWog93]

I am 100% for real. Everyone is a piece of shit in one way or another - and rarely do people stop being a piece of shit until some sort of external judgement/pressure is applied.

The fact that this guy refused to shout at his staff, even though he was in an environment where shouting at staff is completely tolerated, is an admirable and frankly rare trait.

It shows he actually cares about other people, rather than doing what is socially acceptable/beneficial to himself.

[prtkgpt]

Bill Burr is a badass. Ruthless savage killer with words. But he’s a comic.

[zem]

it's definitely admirable, and given the number of people who yell i would say it's pretty difficult for a lot of people too