[bryanrasmussen]

>(opening a text file and writing "Button {}" is definitely more complicated if we're talking about teaching to beginners)

if teaching beginners to programming sure, if teaching a programmer beginning QT development no.

[jcelerier]

I disagree, the first case is discoverable, the second isn't at all. But apparently no one cares about discoverability of tools in 2021..

[bryanrasmussen]

I mean the second case is generally discoverable for a programmer because there will documentation of a language or API. I believe people are generally aware of discoverability of documentation in 2021.

[jcelerier]

> I believe people are generally aware of discoverability of documentation in 2021.

as someone who teaches programming in university, that's definitely not true, less than 1 in 20 students has the reflex of looking for any kind of documentation (even after showing it to them)

[bryanrasmussen]

well I'm discussing what is easiest for working programmers, although it's true I do hear about there being a bunch of really bad ones out there so maybe I am just assuming too much.