[rakoo]

I like your comment because i can see the ambivalence between the hobbyist curious to see where this path leads to and the "pragmatist" wondering whether this path is worth even thinking about.

> I'm not living on a boat, and I'm not working on a Raspberry Pi. Why rewrite the software I use into something more lightweight when I can just use the software without consequence now, and save all that pain?

There is a very real trend of people in the computerspace who are applying the "questions" that climate change and working towards a more sustainable world ask us: much like in the physical world, doing always more is a mistake and if we can do what we need to do with fewer resources, then changing our tools to reach this state is a worthy goal in itself. Not only because we should reduce our usage of resources and energy and make sure our tools last longer than the single-digit years they usually do in computerland, but also because if/when TheCollapse (TM) finally comes we won't have access to the latest and shiniest tech anymore so we'll have to make do with what we come up with, and that's going to be old computers and phones lying around unused.

So as always it's a question of priorities: if you don't consider resources usage and climate change as an important enough issue, doing what they're doing will always remain in the domain of hobbyists enjoying their little fun, just like those people who build the most insane programs with fewer characters than are in this very comment.

[600frogs]

I'm absolutely on your side in theory - big bloated layers on bloated layers for a Todo list app grinds my gears more than you can imagine, but moving back to more primitive tools and inconvenience in the name of climate change seems like such a tiny drop in the ocean as to be a pointless sacrifice.

There's also the question of prepping, but I'm a chronic optimist, so I don't think a true collapse is coming in my lifetime. And if does, there's always that CollapseOS which was posted here a year or so ago to get me through. Though thinking about it - I think perhaps whether or not I can browse HN during the apocalypse will be the least of my worries.