[gpm]

You are trying to tell me that growing food for animals to eat, and then eating the animals, somehow takes less arable land than directly growing foods for humans to eat?

That's just not plausible.

[etrabroline]

And yet it's true. 2/3rds of pasture is not suitable for agriculture and would be worthless without ruminants. The corn-fed cattle industry in the US is a result of energy being cheap and labor being expensive. Less than 20% of beef is farmed that way.

[throw0101a]

> And yet it's true. 2/3rds of pasture is not suitable for agriculture and would be worthless without ruminants.

So it's worthless with ruminants. So what? Why not just leave it alone/fallow?

Also, how much water does it take to grow those ruminants and also the animals they feed?

[matthewmorgan]

They're also forgetting about fish and other wild-caught animal food sources