[evgen]

I believe the actual professionals who do assessments on these actors and who specialize in analysis and attribution. Then again, I happen to know some of them and know the field. You apparently know little about this subject but seem desperate to turn this into some sort of political fight. Your intentions and objectives are quite clear: it is more important for you to deflect blame from Russia or Russian hackers (even those who may only be acting with the protection of some wing of the government and not being directed by same) and truth is of little consequence.

What a complete waste of time it is discussing anything on HN that you touch.

[jessaustin]

Wow it seems a lot of thought has been devoted to my "intentions and objectives". Let's dial the discussion back a bit and strive for a bit more objectivity.

You might want to ask the "actual" [?] "professionals" who "specialize in attribution" whether attribution has anything to do with this episode. (Not the episode in TFA, remember, but rather the one you decided [for political reasons?] to talk about instead.) You concede that Darkside are the authors of the hack, and credit at least some of their communication about it. What attribution remains to be done? The actual expertise in attribution among computer security professionals is in identifying and profiling tools and techniques. The amateur psychology and geopolitical analysis we sometimes see quoted in the war media as "attribution" is just bullshit.

If you're in this thread discussing TFA which does not contain the string "Russia" for the obvious reasons, then you are indeed wasting your time. If you're just trying to clear up some intellectually debilitating confusion, then please continue the discussion.