[conistonwater]

If you find that your slowest running pace is still not conversational (which happens a lot), try the run-walk method, and accumulate as much total running time as you can with enough walking breaks that keep you listening to podcasts. That's pretty much where I started myself.

[anyfoo]

Cool, I will try that. I will likely be a bit disappointed how slow my pace is, but I guess it will improve over time...