[bingbingbong]

Forgetting the context surrounding this quote (which makes it no where near as bad IMO but I also acknowledge other readings are reasonable), I wonder if this hypothetical would be a proper analogue:

> García Martínez describes [men] in the [Wall Street] area as "[douchey] and [egotistical], cosseted and naive despite their claims of worldliness, and generally full of shit.”

That's the sort of sentiment I've heard over a drink about any number of places/topics, but I don't think it should be a fireable opinion to publish. Bonus points if you can explain how above example is different without using the word 'power'.

Edit: I've also noticed others posting quotes from the book where he uses equivalently inflammatory language against men, himself, people he worked with at goldman sachs (aka: my toy example pretty much does also appear in his book), etc. My opinion is this paints the book as more of a gauche satire against everyone/everything in his life.

[UncleMeat]

I read it exactly the opposite. A few years ago my wife was recommended Chaos Monkeys by somebody. It was stunning what he had willingly written down to share with the world. Every few minutes she'd explode in horror at the next even more outrageous thing in the text. Instead of being the expected book on silicon valley, it was fascinating because this person was so proud of being a tremendous asshole to everybody.

The book is not a satire. Not even a little. It is absolutely completely honest and the author is a complete jerk.

[ibarea23]

It's not satire, but it is a schtick. If you listen to an interview w/ the guy, he's not at all what I expected from the book (and I had the same response as your wife, though I've heard worse in SV many many times and sort of just appreciated the honesty even if it doesn't reflect my worldview). So does it still reflect a culture that's been problematic in SV that we want to get rid of? For sure, yes. But also, maybe people should be allowed to make mistakes - this kind of sexism was widely tolerated in SV even five years ago. That doesn't excuse it, but I sort of think we have to allow people to grow and change.

[UncleMeat]

People should be allowed to make mistakes. If they change. It is clear that he is still proud of this writing. This isn't "wow, in my younger years I was really awful and I feel bad and have changed".

[fortran77]

Will the same group at Apple start going over everything Dr. Dre has published about women and end his relationship with Apple?

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2015/08/dr-dre-straight...

[kazoomonger]

I think your example doesn't quite work. If one says "the guys/men in X", that can most likely be interpreted as "the people in X", particularly for male-dominated fields/areas. If someone specifies "the women in X" however, they're definitely talking specifically about women.

It would also be weird to me to specifically talk about how "the men" of wall street/bay area/etc as opposed to the women have any real shared traits. Gender is a factor in one's personality, but using that as your only feature is just bad stats.

[dwaltrip]

The two quotes differ in the amount of “punching up” vs “punching down”. Punching up is generally viewed as more acceptable.

[drewcoo]

That implies "power."