[sacomo]

That is great. But still, vaccinated people shouldn't be told that they cannot get infected. There is this weird misconception floating around that just because we get vaccinated we are somehow immune to covid-19. That is a dangerous and misguided belief.

[KoftaBob]

The CDC, FDA, governments, etc have said constantly that the vaccines have a 90-95% efficacy rate.

Anyone who somehow interpreted that as "completely immune" has bad reading comprehension.

This sounds like a strawman argument that you're making, I don't know where you're getting that there's a misconception of the vaccine equating to 100% immunity. No one said that.

[jfengel]

Right now the primary question is about the comprehension, or lack of same, on the part of anti-vaxers. The actual truth about infections is almost completely irrelevant here. The question is, what tactic will keep us all safest when the primary threat comes from people who are clinically stupid?

That's purely a psychology question, and I honestly don't know what the answer is. But it's worth noting that it's pretty much all about strawmen, and which strawmen the anti-vax crowd can be manipulated into believing.

[caddemon]

J&J definitely does not have >90% efficacy

[tehlike]

You might find this more useful:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/of-fully-vaccinated-israelis-o...

[infamouscow]

I thought was actually mattered was hospitalizations and deaths. Why is measuring infections relevant?

[unanswered]

According to the public perception, getting COVID is a death sentence. That's all there is to it.

[sacomo]

The primary goal is to not contract covid-19.

[kelnos]

That may be your goal, but that is not the goal of public health policy. If complete eradication was the goal, we would be wearing masks, social distancing, and requiring businesses to operate at lower capacity for many, many years to come. That is just not an acceptable state of life for the vast majority of people in the US. You may not agree with that, but that's just how things are.

[weezin]

So what is an appropriate amount of cases to go back to normal?