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by trompetenaccoun 1858 days ago
Alcohol and cocaine don't incapacitate you? Millions of drunks who completely pass out regularly might disagree.

I have heard of people claiming that psychedelics enhance their senses and there are professional surfers who have talked about taking LSD to improve their performance. Never heard of anyone doping with alcohol, though. Your comment made me curious and I did look it up: There are four sports that used to or still do test for alcohol as a banned substance in competitions. They are archery, air sports, motor racing and powerboating. It's easy to guess why.
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fourier456 1858 days ago
Public intoxication is illegal in many places. My point is that you can be out in public (comfortably) while drinking whereas that’s less the case with other drugs like LSD. It’s not an absolute claim. I’m just saying the alternative explanation is at least plausible. I think I succeeded.
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trompetenaccoun 1858 days ago
Can you be out drinking comfortably in Iran or Saudi Arabia? The legal situation and societal perception make a big difference. LSD doesn't exactly animate most to go out and seek large groups of people, but it's perfectly possible to be out and about and you likely wouldn't even know the person is tripping in most cases, unless you know them well or can tell by their pupils. It all depends on the cultural context. Drunks in public cause a ton of problems, hence why you mention yourself it's even illegal in some places to be drunk in public. Yet this is tolerated and hundreds of thousands of deaths caused by drunk people accidentally or even intentionally killing people are shrugged off by many in countries where drinking is accepted as a normal part of life.

Don't want to go all Joe Rogan on you but have you ever taken LSD? Apart from the fear of being on LSD in public, there's nothing stopping you from going out and having a good time while on it.

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fourier456 1858 days ago
We seem to agree. LSD is not animating people to seek out groups of sober people. Alcohol is more likely to do that. The drug is incapacitating in a way the other isn’t. Plausibility for the alternative hypothesis is established. Last reply here.
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trompetenaccoun 1857 days ago
LSD doesn't "animate" people to do anything else either. It's not incapacitating in any way (unlike alcohol), there are people doing extreme sports while on LSD. https://maps.org/news-letters/v21n1/v21n1-25to29.pdf

I understand you seem to think that psychedelics make people stay home and isolate but this is simply not the case.

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