[spamalot159]

I am trying to expand my horizons from only node to other frameworks. I've seen so much hype around Deno so I looked into it the other day and I feel the same as you. It doesn't seem different enough from Node from a user standpoint. I also agree that the package system seems messy. For right now I'm going to steer clear and get out django and rails.

[nesarkvechnep]

Try Elixir and thank me later.

[rapsey]

Even as a long time Erlang user, the rise of node.js was just sad to watch. I understand why it happened, but looking from the outside what kind of nonsense they were doing when there are such better solutions was sad.

[polytely]

Elixir's standard library is so pleasant to use. Coming from the JavaScript world it is such a breath of fresh air,

[klibertp]

Elixir's stdlib is great. It's small, based on a just a handful of concepts, but thanks to how powerful the concepts are it covers a lot of use cases. Every module contains pretty much everything you'd ever need to work with the concept that module implements, be it a String, an Enumerable, a Stream, or anything else in the stdlib.

But, Elixir is cheating. It can stay clean and compact in part because it sits on top of 30 years of development of Erlang stdlib. Erlang stdlib is messy, spread across multiple applications and modules, with module interfaces inconsistent with each other, not to mention parts of it still include compatibility layers for Erlang/OTP version so old that they didn't have lambdas yet. But, the functionality is there, which enables Elixir to have a small, focused stdlib - because when something is missing, you can just grab an Erlang equivalent.

This is similar to what Clojure does on the JVM. JS doesn't have the luxury of sitting on top of a battle tested stdlib, and trying to cover all the functionality of such stdlib is what results in incomplete and unstable APIs and reliance on so many external packages.

[FractalHQ]

How’s the lack of static types treating you? Honest question as someone looking at Gleam.

[pythonaut_16]

I've generally had less typing issues in Elixir than I had when working in Python (which generally wasn't a ton but varied a lot depending on the library).

I've found that Elixir's functional programming model generally alleviates type issues. You're always thinking about what you are passing into a function or what function you are calling and with what data structures.

A lot of type issues in JS, Ruby, Python, etc. seem to come from the mutability and object oriented parts.