[coding_unit_1]

You can’t generalise Tesla as representing all EVs. They’re the only ones who have this remote control of your car and restricted availability of parts. No other manufacturer does this.

I agree it’s not a healthy model long-term, just hoping it stays niche with Tesla rather than other manufacturers joining in.

[ajross]

Uh... literally every manufacturer does restricted availability of parts.

[bri3d]

Huh? The only parts restriction I've ever come across is VIN-locked special edition parts, to keep dealers from trying to build a side-business building their own special editions. Usually these are cosmetic (Land Cruiser wheels are a good example) and rather silly anyway. And, the restriction isn't "you can't get these parts," it's "you can only get these parts with a matching VIN."

In contrast, Tesla regulate all structural and HV parts. Whether this is a bad idea or not I'm not quite sure (I think the argument that HV repair is more dangerous than gasoline vehicle repair absolutely has merit), but it's a key difference.

Furthermore, while all manufacturers these days do lock down software to some degree, none do to the extent of Tesla. For example, on VW you need GeKo access for Component Protection removal, but it's $999/year and just requires a business entity. And, a few features are behind SWaP codes, but you can buy those SWaP features too, even as an independent shop. And of course, if you like you can RE the software or buy a reversed software tool suite like Abrites which will let you bypass these mechanisms without your car being remotely banned from certain functionalities.

[gamblor956]

Uh... literally every manufacturer does restricted availability of parts.

No, they literally do not. Automakers will generally sell replacement parts for any vehicles they currently sell to anyone willing to pay for them.

In fact, they usually have dedicated sites just for buying replacement parts. https://www.toyota.com/owners/parts-service/parts https://parts.ford.com/en.html https://estore.honda.com/

In cases where the automaker won't sell replacement parts, that is because they don't make the part, but third parties do, and the part can be acquired from one or more third parties. (Note: in the case of GM and BMW, the below are third party retailers, but they also sell OEM parts, which GM and BMW do not appear to sell direct online.)

https://www.gmpartsdirect.com/ https://www.getbmwparts.com/bmw-replacement-parts

[syshum]

>>just hoping it stays niche with Tesla rather than other manufacturers joining in.

No chance of that, while most of the others have not gone full Apple in their control like Tesla has

Most of them (Gm, Ford, VW, etc ) have all signaled their desire to start down this path and many of them have removed anything not legally required to be in the ODBII spec into proprietary controls that require manufacturer authorization