[rolandr]

I generally agree, but on the other hand, from a consumer perspective IoT devices have and continue to be particularly inconvenient. After 15 or so years of IoT devices, what do we have that resembles interoperability or open protocols? Maybe Zigbee? Instead, it seems that each IoT device is a one-off effort by a very small team, and that networking is the part where you cross your fingers, close your eyes, and hold your nose throughout the processes of connecting and diagnosing connectivity issues.

[kristofferR]

> After 15 or so years of IoT devices, what do we have that resembles interoperability or open protocols?

Thread is what you are talking about. It's awesome.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thread_(network_protocol)

[pkulak]

There are a few companies that have "closed" systems that are nonetheless extremely easy to integrate into something like Home Assistant, or anything else. Lutron, for example, exposes a Telnet port on their (pro) hub that you can connect to and issue plain text commands. Sure, open standards are always better, but I'll take documented local control as a pretty close second.

[jiofih]

Why isn’t WPS common in IoT? It should solve the majority of cases for the home.

[lozaning]

There's a lot of problems with WPS: https://www.cyberpunk.rs/brute-force-attack-against-wps-reav...

[Avamander]

It's insecure.

[daniellarusso]

I thought you were describing Bluetooth for a moment.

[oflannabhra]

Thread and CHiP