[Dah00n]

(Sorry this sounds harsh but im using your words here.)

If you believe America have true "ideals of liberty" and the million of Americans who have died in wars "fought for freedom" I think it is yourself that need to "open your eyes".

[breck]

I will not argue your point that there have always been many people from American who have not embodied the American ideals. However, there have been plenty that have. And millions more come here from countries all around the world to continue building that great future.

Ideals like:

"all people are created equal"

"government of the people, by the people, for the people"

"Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,"

"An individual has not started living until he can rise above the narrow confines of his individualistic concerns to the broader concerns of all humanity."

[breck]

The bigger point is that there are few countries in the world where I can say "on this particular issue you can go fuck yourselves" to the top law enforcement agency and actually have a % chance of not being shot or put behind bars for it. America ain't perfect, but I've been to about 40 countries and if I had to choose, I'd bet on America 10/10 times.