[BoorishBears]

Human suffering and death are not binary things.

War will always be a bad thing, but putting people on the ground in a foreign land with the mission to kill others has always amplified the horrors of war many many times over.

Taking out power in half the US for a day would kill thousands, but it's the equivalent of an all out attack on the US.

Compare that to if another country were to physically commit to an all out attack and it's easy to see why this would make future wars look like minor skirmishes compared to what's happened in the past

[dillondoyle]

I agree the worst of humanity comes out in war. We'll see what happens with China vs. US. I doubt we'd see nuclear at least, but maybe the new tactical weapons make that more likely.

I think the difference in our viewpoints might be that I don't think it would just be power our for a day.

I think it would be far far worse.

Explosions, power out for months. Exploding a pipeline much harder to repair.

cutting off chip supply with the precipitating attack on Taiwan so we can only access our onshore capacity, if there isn't a cleanroom breach taking weeks or months to recover. Or say an attack on ASML.

sewer services going out or changing the mix to make water not or less safe. Damns.

It's just such a huge amount of our day to day lives; even very simple out of date XP hacks take a while to patch, let alone something like the supply chain chip attack Bloomberg reported and never retracted - which is still weird in my mind and something I could totally see as a current reality on both sides with a long history of similar 3 letter behavior from US.

[BoorishBears]

I don't see how any of that wouldn't be worse than conventional warfare.

At that point where we're being attacked with pipelines exploded we'd be getting bombed.

It's a lot easier to fix a contaminated water treatment facility than a pile of rubble. Same for every other form of technology.

It's almost tautological, the system controls malfunctioning at worst can only destroy the system, conventional warfare defaults to destroying the system.