[grumpyautist]

From Wikipedia: IHME receives core grant funding from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation[60] and the state of Washington. The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC); Inter-American Development Bank; Gavi, the Vaccine Alliance; the National Heart, Lung and Blood Institute; Kingdom of Saudi Arabia Ministry of Health; Medtronic Philanthropy; and the National Institute on Aging have also contributed funding through project grants and contracts.

Billions of dollars from organizations that have billions invested in selling vaccines

Look into the criticism of organizations such as Gavi.

[knowaveragejoe]

Dismayed to see this kind of conspiracy BS on HN.

[grumpyautist]

What about what I said was "conspiracy bs"? These are the organizations that fund the group. They are invested in vaccine sales, and some of them have very questionable ethics. Again from Wikipedia:

"Public-sector workers and academics public health have criticized GAVI, and other global health initiatives (GHIs) with private-sector actors, saying that they have neither the democratic legitimacy nor the capacity to decide on public health agendas. Private donors often find it easier to exert influence through public-private partnerships like GAVI than through the traditional public sector. There is also criticism that staff at GHIs are often recruited directly from elite educational institutions, and have no experience in health care systems, especially those in poorer countries. Some WHO officials have privately criticized GAVI for infringing and weakening the WHO's mandates"

And that is just a small portion of the issues with that organization. GAVI is an organization that promotes sales of the industry's newest vaccines, not promoting vaccination as a whole.

"In 2012, the first MSF "The right shot" report criticized GAVI for focussing on funding expensive new vaccines and neglecting to give children cheap old ones. "Twenty percent of the world’s children aren’t even getting the basic vaccines", MSF's vaccine policy adviser said.[11] MSF criticized the Global Vaccine Action Plan (GVAP), a WHO global collaboration of which GAVI is listed as a leader, as flawed for failing to help those 20%, which is some 19 million children.[28]"

And this is just complaints against one of the organizations.

[worik]

Conspiracy BS because it cherry picks ideas to support a conclusion.

The implied conclusion is that Covid has been exaggerated to sell vaccines

Cherry picking exapmple: "criticized GAVI for focussing on funding expensive new vaccines and neglecting to give children cheap old ones" Two minutes reading the article on Wiki tells me that the purpose of the organisation is to facilitate access to new vaccines, expensive patented ones. Access to non patented cheap vaccines does not need a group like this.

Hardly worth bothering about, but the question was asked. That is why "conspiracy BS"

[grumpyautist]

So, the study is funded by groups that admit to existing to sell new vaccines? And you don't see a conflict of interest?

[des1nderlase]

There could be conflict of interest, but someone still needs to show that these numbers are substantially wrong.

[grumpyautist]

No, the burden of proof is on the author. And considering this is a model, not a study, I wouldn't hold my breath on it.

[akamaka]

Thank you for the clarification.