[irthomasthomas]

Someone is criticising Musk? He's obviously a pedo guy and a polluting BMW driver. I shall send my people to reeducate him. No need for this to be front page. /s

I joke, but seriously, how long can this Musk worship go on? Musk invested in Tesla AFTER Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning built the Roadster. He later sued them for founder status and ousted the real founders from their own company. It's now almost 20 years later, and Tesla is still a tiny little car company that has not had one profitable year (a fact which actually benefits Musk right now as the share price can not be anchored to anything real... the possibilities are infinite ;) The one company Musk actually founded; SolarCity, was an epic failure which needed to be saved from bankruptcy by Tesla and SpaceX. I honestly suspect that Tesla might have been a bigger success, had it remained with it's original founders.

By the way, there are at least 11 lawsuits and investigations of SolarCity listed on it's wikipedia page. That's quite a rap sheet for such a young company with such noble goals. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SolarCity#Lawsuits_and_investi...

[zaptrem]

Do you have a source on the Roadster issue? Per Wikipedia:

> Musk took an active role within the company and oversaw Roadster product design at a detailed level, but was not deeply involved in day-to-day business operations.[12] Eberhard acknowledged that Musk was the person who insisted from the beginning on a carbon-fiber-reinforced polymer body and that Musk led design of components ranging from the power electronics module to the headlamps and other styling.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Tesla,_Inc.

Do you have a source on your company founding point?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zip2 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X.com

I don’t have time to keep going through this, but even the tone of your whole post is extremely smarmy/troll-like. Usually discourse here is a little more polite.

[irthomasthomas]

"However, it is wrongly assumed that Musk was behind the idea of Tesla Motors and electric vehicles. That credit belongs to Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning who originally started the company in 2003 and Musk's recent news prompted one user to tweet, "I still find it darkly amusing that the actual creator of a company named after Nikola Tesla is constantly erased from history, with all credit being given to some rich bully instead."

https://meaww.com/elon-musk-tesla-cofounder-lawsuit-settleme...

[zaptrem]

Yes, we all know Tesla was founded shortly before Musk invested. That doesn’t tell us anything about the design of the Roadster (or Musk’s other companies).

I’m sure millions of people had the idea of building an electric car before Eberhardt and Tarpenning, but as the quote goes “ideas without execution don't matter; execution matters.”

[amelius]

> Tesla is still a (...) company that has not had one profitable year

Isn't this true of most growing companies? Like Amazon, Uber, YouTube (now Google), etc.

[bluGill]

Do they ever become profitable?

I believe Amazon finally has. I don't know about YouTube, but I suspect they are. Uber has a bad business model and so won't (unless their raise prices)