[dotsam]

I think it is useful to distinguish between 'killing an animal for food' and 'rearing billions of animals each year in factories in conditions in which they suffer, and subsequently killing them for food'.

Factory farmed animals does look like a terrible blight on the world to me - what makes you think it isn't?

[twhizzle]

It doesn’t bother me a bit.

I understand some people get real emotional about this type of thing, but I truly do not care.

I’d just prefer we start gene editing to create brainless cows so people can find something else to get all uppity about.

[dotsam]

I like the idea of gene editing to remove brain stems, although that still leaves us with the input/output issues (feed, methane etc), which perhaps we can also engineer away.

If animal suffering doesn't bother you, does human suffering?

[twhizzle]

> If animal suffering doesn't bother you, does human suffering?

Things I can’t control or fix don’t bother me.

[wittycardio]

I mean then you have no moral standing whatsoever and your opinion is irrelevant

[xdennis]

Factory farming makes meat available to the common man. Without it only rich people could afford meat.

[dotsam]

Victorian factory owners might use a similar argument to support using child labour to make cheap goods which the common man can afford; that doesn't mean that child labour is good.