[asadlionpk]

This will get shut down very soon. I am actually surprised Apple even approved this.

I essentially built the same thing for myself (music player that combines/searches multiple sources, use youtube-dl server to stream optimized mp3 only), I had to skip app store and sideload it.

[xuki]

Apple reviewer likely didn’t notice the new features. They spend minutes on each app and this feature is not very obvious, especially when it’s just a feature in a big browser app.

This clearly violates YouTube TOS and Brave knows it, I wonder what’s their plan is.

[delhanty]

Curious to know: Why are Brave subject to YouTube’s TOS?

[Otek]

Brave is a subject to AppStore terms and conditions that it forbit what Brave did

[delhanty]

I understand why Brave are subject to the Apple AppStore TOC.

What I am not clear about is why Brave would be subject to YouTube’s TOC.

[Otek]

as pointed by the user layoutIfNeeded it's this point of TOC

>5.2.3 Audio/Video Downloading: Apps should not facilitate illegal file sharing or include the ability to save, convert, or download media from third-party sources (e.g. Apple Music, YouTube, SoundCloud, Vimeo, etc.) without explicit authorization from those sources.

[rideontime]

Even if, hypothetically, Apple doesn't pull it, how long until Google blocks it? Is Brave big enough to be sued if they continue circumventing Youtube's terms?

[meibo]

Probably soon if this comes to Android, since it basically removes all value from YouTube Premium as it is right now.

Google never allowed alternative YouTube clients that had this exact feature set on the play store.

[BrendanEich]

Are you sure we are doing what got others in trouble?

[llarsson]

This is like NewPipe, just more convenient. And you can't find that in the Play Store, right?

Plus, it needs almost weekly updates to function because Google (my guess!) intentionally breaks some API slightly, just to make this sort of thing more difficult.

[BrendanEich]

Not “like NewPipe” in crucial regard.

[asadlionpk]

Care to explain?

The YouTube ToS clearly says players shouldn’t play audio without video (aka background audio).

Does scrapping via youtube-dl make it legal?

[jonathansampson]

I just read through the relevant parts of https://www.youtube.com/t/terms again; nowhere in there does it say you cannot play audio _without_ video. Users with less bandwidth shouldn't be punished :)

[codetrotter]

Will this feature be in the Android version on Google Play also? I use iOS anyways but am curious. And if you get banned from Google Play, will you guys fight back?

[xsmasher]

Every app that does background play of youtube videos seems to get shut down shortly after gaining any traction.

[echelon]

Isn't it about time we asked what the hell is wrong with this picture? You can't even use your own device to consume content the way you want.

The DOJ needs to break apart Apple. If not the DOJ, then Epic's court case.

Apple literally became the monster in their 1984 commercial.

[aikinai]

Apple should be broken apart by the government because YouTube abides by the government’s copyright rules?

Sure, the current situation isn’t what I’d want either, but this line of thought makes no sense.

[echelon]

You're shifting the argument.

Of course Google will protect their copyright. That doesn't mean Apple should prevent video download software from being on their platform. There are an unlimited number of legitimate uses for it.

The disrespect and hubris Apple has to control the behavior of its users is astounding.

[s17n]

Brave will get a cease and desist from YouTube anyway.