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by antibuddy 1865 days ago
In India currently die ~2 people per 100k per week on Corona. In Germany it was over triple that in December. The total Corona mortality in India is also way way lower as in Germany (16.842/100k vs 100.35/100k).

I am not sure that the moral panic is even justified.
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iso1631 1865 days ago
You'er basing that on official figures from a country which has cities whose healthcare systems collapsed.

Makeshift funeral pyres in the middle of a city street don't happen in a country where something hasn't gone terribly wrong

Delhi's official death rate of the last 7 days was 9 per 100k, and University of Michigan are estimating real rates at 2-5 times higher than that for India as a whole.

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antibuddy 1865 days ago
In Kerala the all-cause mortality decreased from 2019-2020[0] - something you could observe in Germany as well. Kerala is said to be more advanced than other states in India, however it lends some credence to the official numbers.

[0]: https://health.kerala.gov.in/pdf/Technical-paper-All-Cause-M...

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antibuddy 1865 days ago
> Makeshift funeral pyres in the middle of a city street don't happen in a country where something hasn't gone terribly wrong

The same was said in Germany/Saxony (crematoria capacity reached), however they plain omitted the fact that usually these were outsourced to Czech Republic, but borders were closed. Cherry-picking parts of the story but omitting others is so common that I am hesitant to take it as is.

It would be certainly better to have overall mortality, so it would be easier to reason about the veracity of COVID mortality, however I am not convinced by obvious emotional manipulation.

> Delhi's official death rate of the last 7 days was 9 per 100k, and University of Michigan are estimating real rates at 2-5 times higher than that for India as a whole.

9/100k/w is not very high for cities given they are drastically more affected by pandemics in general. 2-5 times is quite a big margin, but I would be interested in how they came to these numbers.

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robrenaud 1865 days ago
How much of that is just undercounting of covid deaths in India?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2021/04/24/worl...

“It’s a complete massacre of data,” said Bhramar Mukherjee, an epidemiologist at the University of Michigan who has been following India closely. “From all the modeling we’ve done, we believe the true number of deaths is two to five times what is being reported.”

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