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by balls187 1874 days ago
> ...there needs to be at least some value proposition.

This is spot on.

I'd recommend signing up and completing a relatively well-known coding bootcamp.

Edit to add, in 20 years a lot has changed outside of just specific CS skills:

Cloud collaborative suites, conferencing systems, Slack/MSFT Teams, JIRA, git, just to name a few.

20 years ago, I was at my first role out of college--we used Outlook, MSFT VC++ 6.0, VSS, and AOL Instant Messenger.

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MSFT Teams -- my condolences.
I see this sentiment online, but using MS Teams at work, I have a great experience. 2-n way chat threads and video calls, team bulletin boards, and integrated apps like sharepoint, excel, custom internal software, etc.

I use slack, zoom, and discord for a mix of school and personal use, and appreciate what each of these offer, but wouldn’t wish to switch off of Teams for work. I do wish you could message yourself on Teams like slack. That’s a nice quick reference utility.

Why do you offer condolences for MS Teams though?

it's a lot better than using nothing, I'll give you that much. I think great is a stretch though.

However, the product is really rough around the edges and lacks the quality you'd find in other products (well, the other product, but there are also open source alternatives* that are worth looking at as well imo).

* https://www.reddit.com/r/opensource/comments/fokrr7/opensour...