[blocked_again]

I have no doubt that Rome will massively increase the producitvity of thousands of companies and developers. But the hard thing in open source is how will you capture some portion of that value. The vast majority of libraries, toolchains and other open source projects out there which has massively increased the developer producitivty are underfunded let alone generate millions of dollars in sales. Rome not only has to find a sustainable way for funding the project as well as figure out a way to 100x the returns of VCs? How is Rome planning to do that?

[austincheney]

> I have no doubt that Rome will massively increase the producitvity of thousands of companies and developers

I would like to see that measured.

My suspicion is that many developers are already too reliant on tooling and that reliance harms productivity rather than improves it. Bundling those tooling concerns eliminates some operational costs associated with a plurality of tools but increases dependency upon the tool.

This problem is not a technical problem (as in how do I solve a problem), but a cultural problem (as in what is the proper way to solve a problem). It comes down to the difference between a product focus (what do we ship) versus an operational focus (what do we work on).

[Oddskar]

I think you're being very selective with what you call "tooling" here. I understand where it's coming from though, and I agree that in some circumstances people are adhering too much to what might be perceived as "standards" instead of building or using something more fit to the task.

On the contrary I would also say that I see a lot of developers not being reliant enough on tooling. A simple example is getting very acquainted with the debugger in your language of choice. It's very common to sprinkle logs everywhere instead of properly learning how to step through code.

[austincheney]

I mean tooling as generally as possible, everything outside your application's execution runtime and the shell it runs in. Of course developer's will benefit from a code editor and a language compiler (assuming there aren't many), but how much tooling do you really need to deliver a product?

[sbarre]

> How is Rome planning to do that?

Clearly they have a vision that investors thought was compelling enough to buy into.

Perhaps be patient and see what they announce in the future? This is their day one (zero?)..

If there was an easy answer here, someone else would have already done it.

edit: they (sort of) answer in another thread https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27039330

[blocked_again]

Yeah. I geuinely hope they work it out. And hopefully more open source projects can follow their playbook.