[mc32]

Not having a schedule with the people candidates are supposed to speak with which includes their titles/roles and not introducing yourself to the candidate. Then complain if a candidates makes the wrong assumptions about people’s roles and ignore the right assumptions candidates make when meeting and greeting strangers.

When cops do this it’s entrapment but when a hiring manager does it... it’s good. I guess the police should go out and entrap as many people as they can I’m sure they’ll find a few criminals among the population.

Why not have the CEO role play a custodian with a mop and flip out when candidates make assumptions?

[wjertyj]

In 15 years of interviewing (both sides of the table) at FAANGs, universities, startups, hedge funds, and the us federal government, I can think of exactly one time I was given an itinerary outlining who I'd speak with, and zero when one of my candidates was provided with one.

No, when cops do what's described, it's called an undercover assignment. Entrapment is when the police encourage the forbidden behavior. In no way shape nor form is having a woman greet you coming near entrapment.

As for having a CEO play custodian, sure, it's a poor use of my time in leadership, but at the end of the day, I don't care who is carrying a mop around the office. I do care about keeping out the shitheads who feel they're entitled to disrespect someone because they're carrying a mop.

[DoreenMichele]

I am reminded of an old story from back in the day when banking did not involve the internet. Some guy in paint-spattered work clothes went to the bank and some new hire bank teller was terribly rude to him so he threatened to close his account.

She was all "Feel free" and didn't budge an inch on her awful behavior so he did, in fact, close his account. For which I believe she was fired because he was the owner of a construction company and his accounts were worth millions.

[mc32]

These kinds of tropes are in old movies. The 49er whos struck gold and looks like a vagrant. Tuco in the Good the Bad and the Ugly who mistakes a union soldier for a confederate soldier, etc.

[DoreenMichele]

And if you read Hacker News enough you've probably heard the one about the homeless woman that everyone kept mistaking for a tourist.

[mc32]

I said make assumptions I didn’t say be a shithead. If they saw you and alerted you to a spill over by the elevator don’t flip out when they made the presumption given you role played a custodian/janitor. If she asked you to go clean her car, sure by all means she’s stupid to do that but not for going for your ruse.

[wjertyj]

There literally is no ruse.

The "test" is "are you shitty toward women".

Making assumptions and then acting on those assumptions (particularly in a hiring scenario) is, indeed, shitty shithead behavior.

[mc32]

You're not going to filter out people well, the "cons", that way. They are not going to give you tells. You'll get a nice gotcha to brag about from a tired idiot who wasn't on their game that day. Cool, bravo, you win.