[recursivedoubts]

libertarianism is an interesting & coherent political philosophy, but I notice that it keeps losing

my understanding is that, from a political perspective, the idea is to win

[listless]

This is an excellent point. And I _think_ that the answer is that government is inherently about control. Both sides seek to gain power and then use it to control and manipulate people into behaving a certain way. Politics itself is essentially at odds with libertarianism.

[smitty1e]

Perhaps libertarianism itself and alone is less than sufficient as a political system.