[AdrianB1]

How do you define the basics of survival? In parts of the world people live with 2 hamburgers a day, is that what you propose? Even $15/hour seems huge compared with basics of survival.

Also, there are not enough executives to take from them to give to the poor. You need 100 or 1000 times more for that, so the executives theme is a straw man.

[solosoyokaze]

I would define the basics of survival as:

* Basic groceries

* Healthcare

* Housing

I don't think these things are easy to achieve but they seem like obvious goals to societal progress. If not, what are we even progressing towards?

> Also, there are not enough executives to take from them to give to the poor. You need 100 or 1000 times more for that, so the executives theme is a straw man.

I said if a company wants to fill a role, that they should pull from executive pay. The average CEO gets 70-1 the pay of the average employee. There is absolutely a surplus of capital to pull from to increase worker pay (thus filling the role).

https://www.payscale.com/data-packages/ceo-pay

[AnimalMuppet]

I would add transportation and communications to the "basics of survival".

[AdrianB1]

This is nowhere close to 'basics of survival'. You can survive on 2 hamburgers a day and 1 liter of drinking water, this is called survival. If you want 'basics of nice living' then call it that way, but don't redefine the dictionary. Think of 'basics of survival' what you need to continue to live if you land on a deserted island in the middle of the ocean, naked and with no tools.

[solosoyokaze]

You can’t live without shelter or medical care.

[AdrianB1]

Really? Tell that to Hiroo Onoda and his 29 years in the jungle. You see, people play on the subjective nature of life and honesty is not a virtue anymore.