[dash2]

Big ugh to browser based tooling, and yet also continued unification around Jupyter? Are there any plans to have a non-browser Jupyter?

[jaegerpicker]

I use PyCharm's Juypter plugin and it's seemed far better for me. I work in Python everyday but I'm more on the data engineering and app security/architecture side of things than straight up Data Science. I don't use notebook's as often as I'd like but I live in PyCharm.

[Iwan-Zotow]

> Are there any plans to have a non-browser Jupyter?

Sure. VSCode with python and Jupyter extensions

[jaegerpicker]

Is VSCode's Jupyter extension much better than PyCharm's? Just curious, I prefer PyCharm over VSCode for normal python dev work. By a lot but I get it's personal preference, so I'm curious.

[Iwan-Zotow]

can't compare with charm, but a lot better than web, I believe

[TechBro8615]

I tried this for the first time the other day and it was a great experience. Ironically the most cumbersome part continues to be Python environment management. I'll spare you my usual rant about that, but hopefully by Python 4 they'll find a solution.

[gugagore]

What difference does this make, though? Isn't VSCode an Electron app? All of its UI is based on web stuff, anyway!

[BlueTemplar]

I assume that at least the browser shortcuts are out of the way ?

[pdeffebach]

QtConsole is actively maintained. I don't use it but I do like it a lot.

[kylebarron]

nbterm [0] was recently released. You can also use Jupyter as a command line interface through Jupyter Console.

[0]: https://blog.jupyter.org/nbterm-jupyter-notebooks-in-the-ter...

[nerdponx]

It's "ugh" in the Jupyter world too.

A good quality standalone "notebook editor" would be an incredible tool. Nteract exists, but is not "good".