[dbrueck]

The term "racist outcomes" is an example of the problem we're talking about. A racial disparity is not racist. Correlation is not the same thing as causation.

Racism could very much be one of the factors, but painting the entire disparity as racism pretty much guarantees we will make no progress on zeroing in on, and ultimately eliminating, the actual racism.

Conflating racial disparities with racism is really harmful and counterproductive.

[BlueTemplar]

The problem is that at least at some point it was racist, and a bunch of feedbacks keep it that way, with machine learning potentially another one.

[ttt0]

It wasn't racist in my country at any point, as we never had any slavery (we did enslave and genocide each other, but we're all white so no one cares) or racial minorities even, besides maybe some Turks or whatever. And I was still told by some people that I benefit from white privilege.