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by cjones26 1882 days ago
National Geographic has been driving me crazy with this email popup. I won't be giving them my email, so sadly I will not be reading any National Geographic articles.
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Tangent: I used to subscribe to the mag for years.

I was getting steadily more frustrated with the shift towards US domestic content and away from nature and the world, but I there was still good stuff in there and I was a big fan of sponsoring the research and exploration.

Then they sold to Murdoch, and so my subscription was no longer fuelling the research and exploration stuff, so I stopped in disgust.

Still miss what I remember of the 'good old days'.

My Grandmother had a subscription to the mag going back to the mid 1960s, I read all of them, and it enriched my childhood. The online experience has always sucked, but in different ways over the years.
20 Yrs ago my brother bought 2 years worth of magazines from the kabadi bazar* in India it was a treasure trove. I was thinking of subscribing a few days back but based on what people are saying here I am wondering if I should buy old stuff from ebay instead.

* You sell old newspaper and magazines by the kilo in India for recycling, sometimes they make their way to a huge market where people are selling old stuff in a huge market called Kabadi bazar think of it like a pawn shops fair every Sunday.

Great idea to find old ones. They were often very interesting and much less political.
I subscribed to the iPad version for a while, it was beautiful imho, though this was a few years ago.
What?? I had no idea they were bought by Murdoch.
They're not, at least not now. The TV arm used to be part of 21st Century Fox from 2015-2017, but...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Geographic_Partners

Disney owns 73%. The National Geographic Society owns 27%.

I remember it becoming more and more about environmental issues, when Murdoch bought it did they change?
I've had a subscription for decades - I can't see a shift toward what I genuinely expected when Murdoch bought it. Yes, they focus more on US issues than in the past, but I have to assume that is where their market is. But environmental issues and nature conservation are still very prominent in the publication.
Agree entirely. I dropped my subscription around the same time as you, by the sound of it.
Thanks for the heads up ... didn't know that and will act accordingly.
Verify the claim first. (It's not true.)
Rupert Murdoch owns 21st Century Fox, which brought the magazine in 2015 for $725M.
Disney bought 21st Century Fox from Murdoch two years later.

His ownership was very brief. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acquisition_of_21st_Century_Fo...

No need to cancel a subscription over old news.

So the money raised by the sale of magazines now goes to research and exploration again?
If you're boycotting something based on false rumors you read on an Internet forum, I'm not sure how you buy anything.

Hey, I heard that Kim Jong-un bought out all the world's watermelon farms, so every time you buy a watermelon you're contributing to the oppression of North Koreans!

That's a lot of words to say: "the OP is incorrect". But I appreciate your concern.

And, so there is some factual outcome or use to this thread, I'd like to add that I'm looking forward to Murdoch rotting in actual, or metaphorical, hell.

You're welcome.

The OP isn't boycotting anything, he's signalling.
> Then they sold to Murdoch, and so my subscription was no longer fuelling the research and exploration stuff, so I stopped in disgust.

Is there any proof of the funding part? I find it hard to believe they would partner with Fox for years before forming the joint venture, not get anything out of the partnership, and then form a joint venture and get even less.

I personally just use support@ emails. There's a good chance it opens up a support ticket and slightly annoys someone. you could also use caprivacy@twdc.com to really tick them off.

It's sad Disney has to stoop this low.

support@nationalgeographic.com?
Yep! But really if you want to stick it to them just look at their contact or privacy policy and you should get a real email.
dataprotection@disney.co.uk :)
Just hit F12 and paste this into the console when they ask for it

    document.querySelector('.Modal').remove();
    document.body.classList.remove('Scroll--locked');
    document.body.style.overflow="scroll";
    document.body.style.position="static";
Nice. I've been finding myself using the F12 tools more and more recently to tweak websites I use often - say to change the background colour or font. Not a web dev, but it's fun to look under the hood and play about with things.
I can't even dismiss the modal:

> "Sorry, this campaign is not available in your area"

Then why in the seven seas do you even produce the blasted popup ?

It's different teams doing the popup and running the campaign.
Yeah, somehow I rarely come across the correct order of those. For me, it's usually "agree to cookies" or other nonsense first and then "region-go-fuck-yourself" kind of stuff.
I just came here to complain about that! It's the most obnoxious popup, ffs at least show it at the start so I don't waste my time on 1/5 of an article.
Ublock origin + lightning bolt!
I am sorry but is lightning bolt some extension?
It is an element zapper built into ublock origin. Useful for permanently getting rid of annoying pop up dialogs.
no it's the "quick picker" or "zapping mode" of ublock origin. very handy!
I'm using Bypass Paywalls specifically for this.
As it turns out, "signing up" with "fuck.off@eat.shit.com" worked just fine for me.

... With apologies to whoever owns shit.com.

Just press reader view.
I understand the annoyance, but I really hope the parent comment does not remain the top comment on this post. I hope that would be related to the content, not the issues around its presentation.

For anyone who needs it, both the source material and an alternate link have been posted as top-level comments.

A better OP would be just the source material. HN could take a page out of r/science's book in this regard and just outright ban secondary sources.
If you disable Javascript, it seems to still load the full article, and doesn't break formatting.
I'll give an annoying popup/paywalled page one chance by trying reader mode, which often works. I'm extremely rarely motivated enough to bother trying any harder than that to read an article the publisher is actively working against me being able to read.
I didn't even consider reader mode to be honest. I've been using the disable-javascript thing for so long it's become the automatic go-to when I get such popups.
Plus if you're decent with the inspector, you can usually remove the paywall and then if the body doesn't scroll find the Event Listener for `onscroll` and kill that; it almost always is just a simple fn preventing scroll events
On this National Geographics page, in the inspector just select the <body> and in the CSS pane remove the "position: fixed" and "overflow: hidden". This allows scrolling.
A lot of websites do that, the Kill Sticky button always saves me https://github.com/t-mart/kill-sticky
you can always type in anyone@anywhere.com and it isn't verified.
I wonder if using an address @nationalgeographic.com (e.g. support) might illuminate to them how foolish this is...
Yeah, I tend to do support@[target domain] if a site gets too annoying with their popups.
Don't make up domain names for this. Always use example.com
Why it has to be meaningful words? Why not qwqeeq@qqekqe.com? :-)
or <vulgar>@<vulgar.tld>
Awesome trick. Thanks!
I don't see the popu. But I do see an advertisement every 1.5 screens I scroll down. Extremely annoying. Article itself isn't bad though
This kind of comment chain helps me remember how amazing uBlock Origin is. I don't see the popup or the inline adverts, and uBlock just works without breaking the site. Amazing.

It just works so well, in fact, that I forget it is there at all, and I am glad to occasionally get these reminders.

I just use a random user and a domain that resolves to local host. I'm not sure how their MTA will deal with it though.
Just type a random email in the box. This is basic debugging knowledge.
How is providing a fake email "debugging"... ?
I use ublock origin and disable javascript for the session.
>.>

I wrote: whoeversethisupgof**yourself@gmail.com

and it worked! :)

What email popup ?

... perhaps you are using some browser that isn't Firefox and/or you not have uBlock installed ?