[mensetmanusman]

“ Humans have this vanity that we're special, but we're really not.”

How would one go about proving this statement. Hint: it’s impossible (by definition)

[kazoomonger]

Not sure what you mean by that. If you're looking for a rigorous mathematical proof that humans obey the same laws of physics as everything else, I can't offer you one. However, the burden of proof is on someone asserting that humans are somehow special. I'll believe it when I see it.

[mensetmanusman]

In this case the choice of axioms would dictate who holds the burden of proof. The choice of axioms is an act of faith since they can’t be proven.

[kazoomonger]

In a theoretical vacuum, maybe. However we've done a fair amount of exploring ourselves and the way we work, and we haven't found a soul yet. Asserting that humans are somehow special requires explaining the lack of any supporting evidence.

This is a variant of the god-of-the-gaps argument, which is not turning out well for proponents of religion, as those gaps keep getting smaller and smaller. Again, I'll believe it when I see it.