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by lobstrosity420 1877 days ago
Calibre just works and is great, but the user interface needs some work to modernize how it looks and to be less confusing in general. I'd love a fork that follows the Gnome Human Interface guidelines.
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Yeah it's wild how the use case for 90% of users is "convert epub/mobi/whatever to azw3 and upload to kindle" and doing that is buried in several right click context menus... I'm comfortable doing it now but it seems as easy as having a left pane for books in my "library" and right pane for books on my device
If you just want to convert books and then copy them to your device I suggest you have a look at the command line tools installed alongside calibre.

`ebook-convert` does exactly that.

https://manual.calibre-ebook.com/de/generated/de/ebook-conve...

Yup!

ebook-convert mybook.epub mybook.mobi

Haven't used it in a little bit, but from memory most of my flow for this was drag and drop. Drag the source onto Calibre, then drag that to the Kindle logo up top.
I'm afraid that attempts to change it will ruin it, like many other things. Calibre just works and once you've learned how to use it, it's great that it doesn't change on you for no particular reason. I personally wish it remain unchanged.
> the user interface needs some work to modernize

No, it doesn't. Eventually people learn to use it, and everyone is happy that way.

Considering that it is an amazing piece of software but 90% of the comments on this thread (made up of mostly technical users) are about its user interface, it should be obvious that there are some problems.
There are people saying it needs improvement and people saying it’s ok for them, works for them as power users
People shouldn't have to learn how to use its complicated interface. The killer feature is managing eBooks, not rocket science.

There is nothing at all about the Calibre interface that needs to be the way it is. What's so interesting is the way it apes an old version of iTunes, one which nobody would've considered the pinnacle of UX, and still manages to complicate and bury things in unexpected places.

EVERY user interface needs to be learnt. Ask anyone: they hate it when it changes.
Yes, they all need to be learnt. How odd that an excuse for failing to reduce complexity?

There are well-documented user interface design guidelines to follow, both vendor specific and general ones made by experts like Jakob Nielsen.

Well-designed user interfaces lend themselves to user experiences where the learning curve is low, not steep, sometimes coming close to flat.

The only excuse I can fathom for those who prefer the learning curve be as high as possible or never be lowered is resentment that their own efforts to scale the same mountain of learning the UI themselves.

I call that technical elitism. It says “I worked hard to learn how complicated interfaces work, everybody else should be held to the same expectation”. No, they should not.

There are some huge UI warts, so I only use it to convert e-books.

1. I can't figure out how to change the styling of the book viewer. 2. Whenever I search, then try to hit backspace to modify my search terms, it tries to delete the first search result.

Not everyone is happy, which is why many of us wish it had a better UI.
I don’t know. I’ve bounced off it multiple times and just given up.
What do you use instead of Calibre? I haven't found a similar tool that is as useful, is free, runs on Linux, etc.

I find Calibre is not a tool to "enjoy" spending time on, but simply a tool to solve something specific so that I can then spend time on my Kindle.

There are other tools where I want to enjoy the time I spend using them (say, text editors, paint programs, IDEs) but Calibre is not one of them.

I use AlReader on android... But I don't think there is a Linux equivalent.
Noooo, no more Gnome ultra-minimalist and featureless interfaces.

If we ask for a better user interface, it pays to be sure it is actually an improvement.

I disagree and I hope no effort is wasted on this. Calibre is great and any confusion is solved by googling.

If and only if the author(s) feel they have time and energy to spend on this, then that's ok. But no forks and no wasted energy, please!

I'd rather they spent time solving bugs and improving/adding features.

UIs that you have to google are like jokes you have to explain...
I've never met a UI for which I didn't have to google how to accomplish some things, even macOS'

Completely self explanatory UIs don't exist. In the olden days they required manuals. Now we have online help and google at our fingertips, fortunately.

Unlike jokes, UIs are not an end unto themselves. I'm more than willing to accept a somewhat ugly or cumbersome UI if the underlying tool is as good as Calibre.

I'll be a bit nicer and say it needs some usability improvements. "Modernize"-ation and gnome-esque removal of features is _not_ what it needs.