[toomuchtodo]

That's unnecessary. I'm simply demonstrating that unionization has occurred in businesses far larger and with arguably more difficult organizing environments than Basecamp (with a total of ~60 employees). 800 Google workers thought it important enough to join their union.

[sokoloff]

800 out of 135000 is 6 tenths of 1%.

A Basecamp union organizer who was the only one to decide to join their own creation of a Basecamp Workers Union would already be 3 times as successful as the Google union on a per-capita basis.

[toomuchtodo]

I can only chuckle at the raw math, as if that’s the valuable datapoint. It seems impossible until it’s done.

It took decades for America to ruin the idea of unions, they’re not coming back overnight.

[sokoloff]

A union derives its bargaining power from the amount of monopoly it has on the labor supply. (I don't say that as a bad thing; I mean it just as a factual thing.)

Tech industry turnover is around 13% per year, or 0.25% per week. The Google union could all quit at once and it would be like that week's turnover number was slightly higher than normal.

Google has more employees out sick on any given day than they have union members.

[anm89]

Imagine making this ridiculous argument for anything else.

Yeah, maybe only .005% of Americans are flat earthers but I chuckle at the math! You just havent given it enough time for us to be proven right!