[ta9999]

I would argue cars are still mostly a disaster. They're not good for the environment, they partitioned neighboorhoods, they're very dangerous (the biggest non-disease killer of younger people before drugs), and they're another thing poor people end up having to buy and owe payments on every month.

[grumpyprole]

So true! I once told my kids about the beautiful car-free bicycle cities, they replied something like "wow, I wish we could live there".