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I don't think this person is trying to argue this. They're asking a sincere question about a non-intuitive aspect of open source company business models, and they just keep getting answers that indirectly answer their questions in a veil of condescension and sarcasm.

This person is trying to have a discussion, you're trying to have an argument.

> Developing something like this involves a lot of the designer's literal blood, sweat, and tears

I retain a lot of water so I can see the sweat part. But I think blood and tears are an OSHA concern.

[dylan604]

If you've ever built a PC from 90s era cases, you'll know it is quite easy to get a slight scratch/cut from some edge in that case. If you've ever done enough electrical wiring, you'll have felt the tickle at some point. If you've ever worked with near a stove or anything hot, you'll have touched something you shouldn't have at some point. There are a lot of oops that happen that are not life threatening OSHA violations.

If you've never shed a tear over something so close but ultimately not working, then you must be a robot or souless. It's human nature. You could just as easily add and/or swap tears for curses. Personally, I lean toward the cursing as it's more satisfying.

Also: argue: intransitive verb: To put forth reasons for or against; debate.

The fact that this word immediately sets forth a hostile emotion for you does not mean I am being hostile.

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re Argument definition: I don't think this person is trying to debate you. That's sort of the core of my point. You're giving a really forceful reaction to someone I perceive to be asking clarifying questions. But, since you are perceiving their messages with a different tone, and I'm perceiving your messages with a different tone, and we're never going to find any ground truth, who's to say who is correct?

And if people regularly bleed and cry at my workplace then I think it's reasonable to call that a toxic environment.

Since definitions of terms and semantics are now a part of this Internet conversation, I think we're done here. You can reply once more and have the last word, if you like. :)